kubecon24/content/day2/10_dev_ux.md

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title: Developers Demand UX for K8s!
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A talk by UX and software people at RedHat (Podman team).
The talk mainly followed the academic study process (aka this is the survey I did for my bachelors/masters thesis).
## Research
* User research Study including 11 devs and platform engineers over three months
* Focus was on an new podman desktop feature
* Experence range 2-3 years experience average (low no experience, high oldschool kube)
* 16 questions regarding environment, workflow, debugging and pain points
* Analysis: Affinity mapping
## Findings
* Where do I start when things are broken? -> There may be solutions, but devs don't know about them
* Network debugging is hard b/c many layers and problems occuring in between cni and infra are really hard -> Network topology issues are rare but hard
* YAML identation -> Tool support is needed for visualisation
* YAML validation -> Just use validation in dev and gitops
* YAML Cleanup -> Normalize YAML (order, anchors, etc) for easy diff
* Inadequate security analysis (too verbose, non-issues are warnings) -> Realtime insights (and during dev)
* Crash Loop -> Identify stuck containers, simple debug containers
* CLI vs GUI -> Enable eperience level oriented gui, Enhance intime troubleshooting
## General issues
* No direct fs access
* Multiple kubeconfigs
* SaaS is sometimes only provided on kube, which sounds like complexity
* Where do i begin my troubleshooting
* Interoperability/Fragility with updates